Comments on: Announcing the Imprudence Project http://tentacolor.com/2008/08/31/announcing-the-imprudence-project/ Wed, 31 Aug 2011 00:33:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Dear M Linden … « web3d-blog http://tentacolor.com/2008/08/31/announcing-the-imprudence-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1716 Dear M Linden … « web3d-blog Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:24:44 +0000 http://tentacolor.com/?p=389#comment-1716 [...] The importance of different clients – preferably white labeled would be obvious then. And Phil mustn’t do this with his own league of extraordinary developers but as part of LL work (see also my note here). [...] [...] The importance of different clients – preferably white labeled would be obvious then. And Phil mustn’t do this with his own league of extraordinary developers but as part of LL work (see also my note here). [...]

]]> By: Bartholomew Kleiber http://tentacolor.com/2008/08/31/announcing-the-imprudence-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1322 Bartholomew Kleiber Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:01:56 +0000 http://tentacolor.com/?p=389#comment-1322 This is good news, since something like a 'simple viewer' was high on my list (and probably on everybodies). I see at least three options: - a noobie mode (like Night Morrisey suggested) where you can move in a simple WASD way and have just a few interactions - a business mode where you can move and have some easier access to chat, voice and 'look at' functionality, suited for example for virtual conferences - an editor mode basically regrouping existing viewer functionalities Probably there are more use cases, too. This is good news, since something like a ‘simple viewer’ was high on my list (and probably on everybodies).

I see at least three options:
- a noobie mode (like Night Morrisey suggested) where you can move in a simple WASD way and have just a few interactions
- a business mode where you can move and have some easier access to chat, voice and ‘look at’ functionality, suited for example for virtual conferences
- an editor mode basically regrouping existing viewer functionalities

Probably there are more use cases, too.

]]> By: Night Morrisey http://tentacolor.com/2008/08/31/announcing-the-imprudence-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1320 Night Morrisey Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:53:30 +0000 http://tentacolor.com/?p=389#comment-1320 I can hardly restrain my excitement. Thank you so much for taking the lead on this important - and I believe historic - task. I wish i had some talent to lend to the task :( One question: Will the IMPRUDENCE PROJECT will be a fully-featured viewer like Rheta's proposal, or a "noobie" viewer? Both are desperately needed, but of course a fully-featured viewer is of more interest to me personally. Just wondering. If I can help in any way, please let me know! -Night I can hardly restrain my excitement. Thank you so much for taking the lead on this important – and I believe historic – task. I wish i had some talent to lend to the task :(

One question: Will the IMPRUDENCE PROJECT will be a fully-featured viewer like Rheta’s proposal, or a “noobie” viewer? Both are desperately needed, but of course a fully-featured viewer is of more interest to me personally. Just wondering.

If I can help in any way, please let me know!

-Night

]]> By: Jacek Antonelli http://tentacolor.com/2008/08/31/announcing-the-imprudence-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1318 Jacek Antonelli Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:47:22 +0000 http://tentacolor.com/?p=389#comment-1318 Thema: Naturally, we will offer Windows, Mac, and Linux versions! :D Tao: The core, low-level code will likely remain similar enough that many of the diffs on the Linden viewer will be applicable to the Imprudence viewer as well. As long as LL keeps releasing the source, we can keep up to date with the protocols. As for OGP -- it has been my intention from the start that the Imprudence viewer must be/remain compatible with OpenSim. I'm a strong believer in OpenSim and Open Grid, so I'd be thrilled to have some collaboration with th OGP folks. Thema: Naturally, we will offer Windows, Mac, and Linux versions! :D

Tao: The core, low-level code will likely remain similar enough that many of the diffs on the Linden viewer will be applicable to the Imprudence viewer as well. As long as LL keeps releasing the source, we can keep up to date with the protocols.

As for OGP — it has been my intention from the start that the Imprudence viewer must be/remain compatible with OpenSim. I’m a strong believer in OpenSim and Open Grid, so I’d be thrilled to have some collaboration with th OGP folks.

]]> By: Tao Takashi http://tentacolor.com/2008/08/31/announcing-the-imprudence-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1314 Tao Takashi Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:18:48 +0000 http://tentacolor.com/?p=389#comment-1314 Sounds like a great plan! :-) But also not an easy one.. Branching completely away from the official source code of course has it's dangers but I also see it as the only way.. Now with HetGrid and all it also shouldn't be too complicated to stay compatible as the server version should stay compatible for older viewers anyway. What are your plans regarding OGP? I would of course like to see this supported and the viewer if possible support both ways to connect (right now it should be rather easy anyway). Here it might even serve as some experimentation ground on how to make the whole protocol better. (another cool project would be to factor out the rendering completely so that it can be reused in other languages/frameworks but that would be quite some work I guess). Sounds like a great plan! :-) But also not an easy one.. Branching completely away from the official source code of course has it’s dangers but I also see it as the only way.. Now with HetGrid and all it also shouldn’t be too complicated to stay compatible as the server version should stay compatible for older viewers anyway.

What are your plans regarding OGP? I would of course like to see this supported and the viewer if possible support both ways to connect (right now it should be rather easy anyway). Here it might even serve as some experimentation ground on how to make the whole protocol better.

(another cool project would be to factor out the rendering completely so that it can be reused in other languages/frameworks but that would be quite some work I guess).

]]> By: The Imprudence Viewer - Could It Help? Could *I* Help? | JohanYugen.co.uk http://tentacolor.com/2008/08/31/announcing-the-imprudence-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1308 The Imprudence Viewer - Could It Help? Could *I* Help? | JohanYugen.co.uk Mon, 01 Sep 2008 00:36:40 +0000 http://tentacolor.com/?p=389#comment-1308 [...] Antonelli tonight announced the forking of Linden Lab’s Second Life Viewer into the Imprudence Viewer. It’s [...] [...] Antonelli tonight announced the forking of Linden Lab’s Second Life Viewer into the Imprudence Viewer. It’s [...]

]]> By: Thema Felix http://tentacolor.com/2008/08/31/announcing-the-imprudence-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1307 Thema Felix Mon, 01 Sep 2008 00:28:46 +0000 http://tentacolor.com/?p=389#comment-1307 Sounds great! The more advancements in UI he better. This is just my little plug for a Mac version to be made alongside any Windows version. ;) I'll go check out those links! Sounds great! The more advancements in UI he better. This is just my little plug for a Mac version to be made alongside any Windows version. ;) I’ll go check out those links!

]]> By: Moggs Oceanlane http://tentacolor.com/2008/08/31/announcing-the-imprudence-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1306 Moggs Oceanlane Mon, 01 Sep 2008 00:15:55 +0000 http://tentacolor.com/?p=389#comment-1306 Oh Yeah! Fanastic plan. Brilliant idea! Can you tell I'm excited. Will come back and read more now my immediate curiosity has been sated. Thanks! You are a legend. Oh Yeah! Fanastic plan. Brilliant idea! Can you tell I’m excited. Will come back and read more now my immediate curiosity has been sated. Thanks! You are a legend.

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