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		<title>By: You are not invited to the party &#171; A Crimson world</title>
		<link>http://tentacolor.com/2008/06/01/public-relations-vs-resident-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-1139</link>
		<dc:creator>You are not invited to the party &#171; A Crimson world</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sure any thing they may say will be some like a &#8220;politically correct&#8221; version of what Jacek said so right in Jacek Lives blog: &#8220;But Linden Lab, it seems, doesn’t want its Residents anymore. It doesn’t want a free, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sign, Sign, Everywhere A Sign &#171; Evans Avenue Exit</title>
		<link>http://tentacolor.com/2008/06/01/public-relations-vs-resident-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-1133</link>
		<dc:creator>Sign, Sign, Everywhere A Sign &#171; Evans Avenue Exit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] why can&#8217;t they communicate the rationale for these changes in a reasonable fashion?  Jacek points out that the Lindens had several options as to how to deal with the Second Life Children this year, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dandellion Kimban</title>
		<link>http://tentacolor.com/2008/06/01/public-relations-vs-resident-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-1132</link>
		<dc:creator>dandellion Kimban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marx, I am veryu much for alternative, free for creativity and diversity SL5B event! Will catch you inworld.</description>
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		<title>By: SL5B minus The Children &#124; VintFalken.com</title>
		<link>http://tentacolor.com/2008/06/01/public-relations-vs-resident-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-1131</link>
		<dc:creator>SL5B minus The Children &#124; VintFalken.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jacek maybe expressed this best: &#8216;Would that it were so. But Linden Lab, it seems, doesn’t want its Residents anymore. It doesn’t want a free, open, creative world. It wants a sanitized, media-friendly world, that universities and big corps won’t think twice about making major investments in. LL’s message for Residents now is: Thanks for making us so popular, but go away now. You’re embarrassing us in front of the cool kids.&#8217; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8216;Children&#8217; not welcome at SL5B &#124; VintFalken.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8216;Children&#8217; not welcome at SL5B &#124; VintFalken.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jacek (2) - Public Relations vs Resident Relations [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Shin</title>
		<link>http://tentacolor.com/2008/06/01/public-relations-vs-resident-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-1129</link>
		<dc:creator>Shin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the downside of option A?  It seems to me that telling the truth can easily be defended..and is what the PR people should be focusing on.  As far as right wing retaliation goes...are you telling me that SL&#039;s lawyers are incapable of defending the truth?  If so, might I suggest a new set.  Never try and appease the wingnuts..just pound them with the truth over and over. Even their own adherents will eventually stop paying attention when the truth finally works it&#039;s way through the noise they create.  They will not only not back off if you give in to them, they will attack harder.

 Much of this stuff gets by because the majority of non-residents (and, I am afraid, a number of residents) just don&#039;t understand what virtual even means.  They &quot;virtually&quot; do this and &quot;virtually&quot; do that all the time, mostly using the word as a synonym for &quot;really&quot; or &quot;actually&quot;.  Start pounding it into peoples heads that virtual means..not real...imaginary, a simulation of reality at best. Nothing that happens in SL can harm anyone in RL.  Period.  Don&#039;t bring up the argument that you can be robbed of RL money by SL crooks.  The money in SL is not virtual, it is tied to RL banks and credit cards.  It is real, and needs real protections and is and should be subject to RL laws. It is no more &quot;virtual&quot; than your ATM card or online banking site (which many people call virtual, but it&#039;s not.  If you are doing any virtual banking at your banks web page, you are going to be in trouble sooner or later).  

No behaviors in SL (or any &quot;virtual&quot; world) are real.  Period.  You cannot be killed, raped, assaulted, molested, or otherwise injured by anyone or anything inside the virtual world of Second Life...anymore than you can in a story written by someone in text.  Anything of a &quot;physical&quot; nature that happens to you in SL stays in SL.  Killed?  Back at your home in milliseconds....caged?  tp away..same with any other actions.  You can always just leave.  Always.  Some of these things may..at worst..annoy you or even upset you..but only in your head.  No real harm has accrued.  You can have real friendships..same as you can with a chat room or a snailmail penpal...but you cannot..under any circumstances..be assaulted in such a way as to cause permanent, physical, real harm to either you or your inworld avatar.  This includes any underage residents who might sneak into the system.  They cannot be molested or harmed in any real way....and I suspect that most of them would be much better served if the attention paid to their virtual sex lives was instead turned on what they have to go through every day at their local schools.  That pervert the uninformed keep thinking is on the net or in SL is still far more likely to be found in the kids home than anyplace else in the world...including the net and SL.

So tell the politicians, or your neighbors, or friends, or clergy (and it seems..maybe more importantly LL staff).....the danger to people is in the real world...not in their imaginations or in any virtual world.  If it&#039;s not real..it&#039;s not happening....and if it&#039;s happening in SL...it&#039;s not real.  Focus people.  There are horrible real things happening to real people all the time.  Let&#039;s fix that and let the virtual worlds of the imagination take care of themselves.  And let&#039;s let the &quot;children in their imagination&quot; back into the mainstream of virtual life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the downside of option A?  It seems to me that telling the truth can easily be defended..and is what the PR people should be focusing on.  As far as right wing retaliation goes&#8230;are you telling me that SL&#8217;s lawyers are incapable of defending the truth?  If so, might I suggest a new set.  Never try and appease the wingnuts..just pound them with the truth over and over. Even their own adherents will eventually stop paying attention when the truth finally works it&#8217;s way through the noise they create.  They will not only not back off if you give in to them, they will attack harder.</p>
<p> Much of this stuff gets by because the majority of non-residents (and, I am afraid, a number of residents) just don&#8217;t understand what virtual even means.  They &#8220;virtually&#8221; do this and &#8220;virtually&#8221; do that all the time, mostly using the word as a synonym for &#8220;really&#8221; or &#8220;actually&#8221;.  Start pounding it into peoples heads that virtual means..not real&#8230;imaginary, a simulation of reality at best. Nothing that happens in SL can harm anyone in RL.  Period.  Don&#8217;t bring up the argument that you can be robbed of RL money by SL crooks.  The money in SL is not virtual, it is tied to RL banks and credit cards.  It is real, and needs real protections and is and should be subject to RL laws. It is no more &#8220;virtual&#8221; than your ATM card or online banking site (which many people call virtual, but it&#8217;s not.  If you are doing any virtual banking at your banks web page, you are going to be in trouble sooner or later).  </p>
<p>No behaviors in SL (or any &#8220;virtual&#8221; world) are real.  Period.  You cannot be killed, raped, assaulted, molested, or otherwise injured by anyone or anything inside the virtual world of Second Life&#8230;anymore than you can in a story written by someone in text.  Anything of a &#8220;physical&#8221; nature that happens to you in SL stays in SL.  Killed?  Back at your home in milliseconds&#8230;.caged?  tp away..same with any other actions.  You can always just leave.  Always.  Some of these things may..at worst..annoy you or even upset you..but only in your head.  No real harm has accrued.  You can have real friendships..same as you can with a chat room or a snailmail penpal&#8230;but you cannot..under any circumstances..be assaulted in such a way as to cause permanent, physical, real harm to either you or your inworld avatar.  This includes any underage residents who might sneak into the system.  They cannot be molested or harmed in any real way&#8230;.and I suspect that most of them would be much better served if the attention paid to their virtual sex lives was instead turned on what they have to go through every day at their local schools.  That pervert the uninformed keep thinking is on the net or in SL is still far more likely to be found in the kids home than anyplace else in the world&#8230;including the net and SL.</p>
<p>So tell the politicians, or your neighbors, or friends, or clergy (and it seems..maybe more importantly LL staff)&#8230;..the danger to people is in the real world&#8230;not in their imaginations or in any virtual world.  If it&#8217;s not real..it&#8217;s not happening&#8230;.and if it&#8217;s happening in SL&#8230;it&#8217;s not real.  Focus people.  There are horrible real things happening to real people all the time.  Let&#8217;s fix that and let the virtual worlds of the imagination take care of themselves.  And let&#8217;s let the &#8220;children in their imagination&#8221; back into the mainstream of virtual life.</p>
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		<title>By: Marx Dudek</title>
		<link>http://tentacolor.com/2008/06/01/public-relations-vs-resident-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-1128</link>
		<dc:creator>Marx Dudek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I half-joked in another comment what IBM&#039;s space is going to look like at SL5B.

I am really surprised and shocked at the way this was handled.  As you said, even (c) would have been an understandable response.

Anyone up for an alternative SL5B event?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I half-joked in another comment what IBM&#8217;s space is going to look like at SL5B.</p>
<p>I am really surprised and shocked at the way this was handled.  As you said, even (c) would have been an understandable response.</p>
<p>Anyone up for an alternative SL5B event?</p>
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		<title>By: The Linden Department of Self-Immolation &#171; Second Arts</title>
		<link>http://tentacolor.com/2008/06/01/public-relations-vs-resident-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-1127</link>
		<dc:creator>The Linden Department of Self-Immolation &#171; Second Arts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jacek Lives puts the question into a larger context, one that I urge interested readers to check out.  In a nutshell, he offers this observation: &#8230;Linden Lab, it seems, doesn’t want its Residents anymore. It doesn’t want a free, open, creative world. It wants a sanitized, media-friendly world, that universities and big corps won’t think twice about making major investments in. LL’s message for Residents now is: Thanks for making us so popular, but go away now. You’re embarrassing us in front of the cool kids. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: IYan Writer</title>
		<link>http://tentacolor.com/2008/06/01/public-relations-vs-resident-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-1120</link>
		<dc:creator>IYan Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree - I&#039;ve spoken of LL&#039;s ham-fisted community decisions before, since &lt;a href=&quot;http://iyanwriter.blogspot.com/2008/01/unbearable-lightness-of-banning.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;January&lt;/a&gt;.

The part I don&#039;t get is - why. This is not rocket science, but common sense. Add to that the fact that Linden Lab is among the companies with the tightest connection to their user base - it&#039;s trivial to gauge user opinions and reactions, because all the users *care* so much about Second Life - and it really makes no sense.

In my linked post, I blamed the incompetent middle layer of LL (and predicted the fall of Phillip, more&#039;s the pity) - but, with M Linden an unknown quantity at the moment, it&#039;s hard to say where it stops.

I fear the day we see Torley&#039;s videos replaced by sanitized marketing videos..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree &#8211; I&#8217;ve spoken of LL&#8217;s ham-fisted community decisions before, since <a href="http://iyanwriter.blogspot.com/2008/01/unbearable-lightness-of-banning.html" rel="nofollow">January</a>.</p>
<p>The part I don&#8217;t get is &#8211; why. This is not rocket science, but common sense. Add to that the fact that Linden Lab is among the companies with the tightest connection to their user base &#8211; it&#8217;s trivial to gauge user opinions and reactions, because all the users *care* so much about Second Life &#8211; and it really makes no sense.</p>
<p>In my linked post, I blamed the incompetent middle layer of LL (and predicted the fall of Phillip, more&#8217;s the pity) &#8211; but, with M Linden an unknown quantity at the moment, it&#8217;s hard to say where it stops.</p>
<p>I fear the day we see Torley&#8217;s videos replaced by sanitized marketing videos..</p>
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		<title>By: dandellion Kimban</title>
		<link>http://tentacolor.com/2008/06/01/public-relations-vs-resident-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-1119</link>
		<dc:creator>dandellion Kimban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently, when I asked &lt;a&gt;what happened to the age verification&lt;/a&gt;, I wasn&#039;t so interested in the bloody thing as I was wondering if there is any possibility that, once that SL is attacked again, we (residents and LL) can colaborate and defend it together. As a resident, I feel like defending the clean name of SL. I guess that is also the interest of LL. We both need this world to function and to be a part of the larger community called &quot;the world&quot;. So, where is the problem? Maybe LL doesn&#039;t feel we have the common interest? Or that residents will not do the job well?

In the case of any other company, things would be much different. But SL is made by both LL and its residents. Even more, that is the essence of Second Life, that is what makes it stand out, that is what makes it so cutting edge. It is not the technology as much as a model of active and fruitful collaboration of service provider and service users. What went wrong when it came to public image of the world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, when I asked <a>what happened to the age verification</a>, I wasn&#8217;t so interested in the bloody thing as I was wondering if there is any possibility that, once that SL is attacked again, we (residents and LL) can colaborate and defend it together. As a resident, I feel like defending the clean name of SL. I guess that is also the interest of LL. We both need this world to function and to be a part of the larger community called &#8220;the world&#8221;. So, where is the problem? Maybe LL doesn&#8217;t feel we have the common interest? Or that residents will not do the job well?</p>
<p>In the case of any other company, things would be much different. But SL is made by both LL and its residents. Even more, that is the essence of Second Life, that is what makes it stand out, that is what makes it so cutting edge. It is not the technology as much as a model of active and fruitful collaboration of service provider and service users. What went wrong when it came to public image of the world?</p>
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