• 11Jan

    Regarding whether images captured in SL should be considered “photographs”, Hamlet writes:

    I’m not totally convinced. Photographs, after all, are created by exposed light hitting a film or data strip. That doesn’t happen in Second Life. And while I think it’s fair to say that an image which is captured “raw” from SL is very similar to a real world photograph (I discuss that here), it’s also possible to subjectively manipulate the world’s appearance in a way that’s totally different. (When an RL photographer needs more light, he can’t just move the sun where he wants it.)

    What’s more, many SL images are drastically altered in programs like Photoshop. A lot of real world artists use photographs as their medium, staging them in fictional narrative scenes, say, or even painting on top the actual photo, and because of that very process, they’re not called photographers– they’re called artists.

    I consider Hamlet’s view here to be somewhat narrow.

    There is no significant difference in the amount of scene-manipulation in RL photographs versus SL photographs. RL photographers may not be able to move the sun on a whim, but they can and do carefully schedule the time of day of their shoots, and use bounce cards and/or studio lights to manipulate the lighting of the scene. You can bet that they’d move the sun if they could. (And I bet some SL photographers would die for the ability to have light bounce off cards in SL — both realities have their challenges.)

    Nor is the amount of post-processing (Photoshopping) significantly different between RL and SL photographs. We’ve seen the Dove Evolution film that demonstrates how much manipulation goes on before, during, and after a RL photo shoot.

    Both RL photographs and SL photographs run the gamut from casual snapshots (“This is us having a good time at Jack’s bachelor party”), to careful attempts at capturing reality (“Behold the natural beauty of a majestic waterfall”), to highly manipulated digital imagery (“I cloned in the crowd of a thousand cheering fans later”), to strange and beautiful photo-collage and mixed-media imagery (“I think you’ve been sniffing too much rubber cement, Marcel”), and so much more.

    The compositional skills — framing, balance, depth, contrast, and so on — apply equally to RL and SL photography.

    So we’re left with one distinction. RL photographs are created by photons bouncing off physical objects, passing through the lens and aperture of a physical camera, and stimulating photosensitive materials. SL photographs are created by careful mathematical projection of virtual objects, rendered as polygons onto a framebuffer in a computer. In both cases, the result is a 3D scene being projected onto a 2D image plane.

    It’s just that one of the scenes exists inside the computer.

    I’ll leave off with one last thought: Photography has long been about capturing the vision of the artist. That’s not always the same as an accurate representation of the physical world.


    Posted by Jacek Antonelli @ 3:31 pm

4 Responses

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  • Shockwave Plasma Says:

    I agree with you Jacek, I think Vint has one on Hamlet this time

  • Coyote Says:

    Sounds like Hamlet needs to read up on Ansel Adams and his development techniques. You can hardly refuse to call HIM a “photographer” just because only half his magic was done at the shutter click.

  • CodeBastard Redgrave Says:

    dang, i love you cuddlefish XD

    your analytic skills will never fail to impress me. again, your right on the spot. personally, being both in RL and SL pictures retouching, I can say SL pictures are even more work because of those vertex and “pointy bits” left my 3D rendering, often requiring up to an hour of Photoshop “Liquify” and “Heal” tool to get rid of them. we have to deal with lighting, and simulate other parameters found in RL photography to improve the realism of the pictures.

    very good rebuttal dear

    *snuggles with cuddlefish*

  • Chrysocolla Says:

    I’m more on Hamlet’s side of this one. Calling SL imagemaking photography makes as much sense to me as calling it painting.

    SL is a 2D representation of a 3D model. Looking at SL is not the same as being in 3D space, and I find the process of looking at the world, imagining how the camera will see it and then capturing it is quite different than capturing SL images. I am reasonably skilled with cameras, but the screen of the SL viewer doesn’t behave like any camera I’ve ever used.

    I’ve no idea why people -want- to call it photography, anyway.